Corrupted Transcript of Mamie's Interview
Martheaus Perkins
Martheaus Perkins is the author of The Grace Black Mothers (Trio House Press) and co-editor of BRAWL Lit. The name “Martheaus” is a collection of each woman who helped raise him: “Mar-” for his grandmother’s nickname, “-Thea-” for his mother’s name, and “-us” for his big aunties. He can be found on Instagram at @martheaus or martheausperkins.com.

As a girl, I sliced my knuckle loose—
saffron kisses on cauliflower—
hahahaha—
we the type of women—bred to hurt—
teeth tend to blister and decay
when any tobacco-mouthed bastard
chews us—
My own mama’s name was Lynetta—
type of slave woman out there with the willful men
squeezing buffalograss as they’d slash her—
mean mule played sucker—Cowskin and cudgel scrapes
—itched at her arms and her back—
To my eye, it was chicken scratch and bubbled skin—
for stew seasoning
she whisked her soul into a roux—
hummed ceaseless timbre—her weary
bones—[screaming]
hold up—that racket again.
Katherene! Tell that child to quit
that hollering—can’t stand a crying grandbaby—
she knows I’ll break
my foot off in her ass—
Katherene.
I named her after my best-loved—demon—heh heh
heh—Miss Katherene
she was a rich White woman who’d drag my tetchy
finger from M to E—first time hearing my name drip
nectar—magpie songs from Miss Katherene’s mouth—
She taught me words in the kitchen, spelling Rendang
or Tamarind Tempeh whilst I tended brass and neck bones and
porcelain and teething and—[crawling from the forest]
Hold a second, Mar—rattlesnakes
out yonder chirping—
Devil sermons ripple across foggy creeks—heeheeheehee.
—the Bible say Judas hanged himself. Swung
until his intestines went bone meal for soil—
I always wondered why future seers act betrayed—God,
I’m thinking, sets some of us up.
You’re smart, Mar. Maybe you could find her. Miss Katherine.
Take her a Polaroid—bring her my name—
spell it—with a spit-roasted tongue—
I’ve always wondered
always wondered
